FCIA Educational Symposium in Abu Dhabi. The Yas Viceroy Hotel 18 May 2014

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1 FCIA Educational Symposium in Abu Dhabi The Yas Viceroy Hotel 18 May 2014

2 A Few Details Fire Exits Mobile Phones Vibrate Emergency Exits Relationships. Questions / Answers at End of Sessions Certificate of Attendance Keep Name Badges

3 FCIA Antitrust Policy Association Do s and Don ts FCIA Outside Counsel DON T discuss the prices your company will charge customers. DON T discuss discounts, terms and conditions of sale, warrant terms, profits or profit margins, shares of market, bids or the intent to bid, rejection or termination, of customers, sales territories, or markets. DON T discuss administration or disciplinary action by the Association against a particular member, or enforcement of the Association s Code of Ethics, in the absence of specific legal guidance. DON T propose or discuss any proposal, in the absence of specific legal guidance, that the Association sponsors or engage in any activity which may have the effect of producing an adverse economic impact on some competing companies.

4 FCIA Thanks Sponsors 3M Gulf Ltd. Butler Engineering, ME HILTI, Inc. Intherpro LLC Koffel Associates RECTORSEAL Rise & Shine Insulation & Contracting Specified Technologies, Inc. Thermofire Middle East

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6 FCIA Educational Symposium in Abu Dhabi Great Speakers Fatma Amer, Ali Bukair, Abu Dhabi DMA Emad Al Hashimi, Dept. of Civil Defence Bill Koffel, Koffel Associates Ahmed Eldidi, UL, LLC Mark Tyrol, Vidur Berry, FM Approvals Nick Brunet, 3M Gulf, Ltd. Randy Clark, RECTORSEAL Sajid Raza, Butler ME Fouad Hajj, STI Mike Thrapp, Abu Dhabi DCD Bill McHugh, FCIA

7 President & Executive Director s Welcome Association Report FCIA Educational Symposium in Abu Dhabi 18 May 2014

8 FCIA Welcome FCIA Membership Growth Result of.teams FCIA Board FCIA Committees FCIA Staff Thanks to all for Building Reliability of Installed Firestopping through the DIIM, DIIMM, DcIMM

9 New FCIA Members Contractors Nova Scotia CAN Admiral - UAE Accurate Firestop - CA ADM Construction - RI Al Bandary Safety & Security Equipment - UAE CUBE ME - UAE Doormasters Trading - UAE (Branch) FAST-Fire Arrest Systems Tech - CO Horizon - NY Insulation Contractors - WA Naboltz Construction - OK Pacific Rim Mechanical Polymath Services - PANAMA RG Firestop Systems - CAN

10 Associates FCIA New Members Compass Inspection Consultants CA Eastern Wings Equipment, UAE Firetek Pacific - HI Speedie & Assoc. - AZ Manufacturer Branch Owens Corning OH

11 FCIA Introductions.Name, Company SPEAK LOUD PLEASE

12 FCIA Committees = Action Accreditation Technical, Education, Apprenticeship Standards Code Marketing Membership Program More

13 Accreditation FM Approvals

14 Accreditation FM 4991 & UL-ULC QFC FM & UL Meetings Personal, Teleconferences Norwood, MA Northbrook, IL UL Meeting Educated Auditors Auditors Read MOP, Took an Exam Strategy Discussions FCIA Firestop FM s Mini Lab

15 Accreditation FM Approvals

16 Technical, Education, Apprenticeship MOP Updates & Apprenticeship Program Ch to 634 pgs., COMPLETE! for your copy. DRAFT Chapter 4, Inspection out for Review DRAFT Chapter 1, 2 underway Firestop Containment Worker Education 2014 Worker MOP Manuals, Curriculum Outline 21+ Powerpoint Presentations with Speaker Notes 21+ Quizzes for students 26 Hours of FCIA Video Step by Step Releasing each month.

17 Technical, Education, Apprenticeship FCIA Webinars Winter Sessions Summer, Fall Sessions Certificates of Attendance CEU s for FM & UL Contractor Programs CEU s for IAS AC 291 Inspection Agency Program

18 Standards Committee ASTM E2174, ASTM E2393 Inspection Standards FM, UL, IAS in Appendix - DISAPPROVED ASTM Inspection in 2012 IBC Showing up now IAS AC 291 Accreditation How to Grow UL Standards Technical Panel FCIA on IAS Board of Directors Koffel Associates & FCIA at ASTM, ICC

19 Code Committee Planning for ICC, NFPA Hearings

20 Marketing Committee Outreach & Relationships Abu Dhabi Department of Municipal Affairs Department of Civil Defence ASHE TJC CHES CSI CSC SFPE SCIP ICC IAS, ICC-ES IFMA NFPA TIAC Leading Age Campus Fire Safety International

21 Marketing (& Accreditation ) Barrier Management Symposium

22 Marketing ICC Expo & ABM, CSI, NFPA

23 Marketing ICC Global Council Meetings

24 Membership Committee Membership 326 FCIA Members Contractors (269 Locations) 30 Contractor Branches 21 International Contractors 8 International Contractor Branches 10 Manufacturers 39 Associates (19 Consultants) 4 Associate Branches 1 Retired 3 Friends, ( Life Safety Digest) 85+% 2014 Renewals Coming in Nicely

25 FCIA Membership Why is Member Retention 85% Overall? Involvement Relationships Outreach FCIA International Symposiums

26 FCIA in Abu Dhabi, Dubai - UAE

27 Doha, Qatar

28 Membership/Marketing FCIA On-Location Calgary FCIA Symposium Canada June 4 & 5 Relationships National Research Council of Canada NRC-CRC UL s Luke Woods, FM s Jeff Gould CAN Fire Forces Fire Marshals, Architects Added 5 new Canada FCIA Members

29 Thanks FCIA 2014 Membership Spreading the DIIM worldwide Build Firestopping Reliability through DIIM - DIIMM DcIIMM FCIA Members & Relationships FM Approved, UL/ULC Contractors IAS AC 291 Special Inspection Agencies

30 FCIA Committees = Action Accreditation Technical, Education, Apprenticeship Standards Code Marketing Membership Program More

31 President & Executive Director s Welcome Association Report FCIA Educational Symposium in Abu Dhabi 18 May 2014

32 Ms. Fatma Mostafa-Amer; Mr. Ali Bukair

33 Mr. Emad Al Hashimi Mr. Mike Thrapp

34 Mr. Bill Koffel, PE, FSFPE

35 2011 FCIA PRESIDENT

36 FCIA Educational Symposium in Abu Dhabi BREAK Sponsored by

37 FCIA Educational Symposium Testing MFL Walls Mr. Mark Tyrol, FM Mr. Vidur Berry, FM in Abu Dhabi

38 FCIA Educational Symposium Testing - Barriers Mr. Ahmed Eldidi Mr. Romnish Kapoor in Abu Dhabi

39 FCIA Educational Symposium in Abu Dhabi Testing - Penetrations Mr. Nick Brunet, 3M Gulf Ltd.

40 FCIA Educational Symposium in Abu Dhabi Testing Joints, Perimeter Fire Containment Mr. Randy Clark, RECTORSEAL

41 FCIA Educational Symposium Installation Mr. Bill McHugh, FCIA Mr. Fouad Hajj, STI in Abu Dhabi

42 Firestopping for Continuity I Classified Systems

43 Firestopping for Continuity Firestop Products Become Firestop Systems -- A Specific field erected construction, consisting of an assemblage of materials to prevent the spread of fire through openings in fire rated walls and floors using ASTM E 814 / UL 1479, ULC-S-115, UL 2079, E-2307 as the test method Testing = Suitability statement for use of a firestop product in a specific system application

44 Firestopping for Continuity Firestop Products Sealants Silicone, Latex, Intumescent Wrap Strips Thick, Thin, Wide, Less Wide Putties Pillows Composite Sheets Bricks / Plugs Pre Fabricated Kits Mortar Spray Products Graphics, STI,3M, AD, HILTI, Nelson

45 Firestop Materials, Systems & Physical Properties Serve Building Needs Smoke Germs Chemical Resistance Cleaning? Chemical, Biological, Radiation? Product Types Intumescent, Latex, Silicone Ablative Endothermic Graphics 3M, STI, Nelson

46 D- Design SYSTEMS SELECTION Who s Responsible, How to Choose??? Graphics STI

47 Firestopping for Continuity Products become Systems Firestop Systems Directories UL Intertek FM Approvals Systems Selection & Analysis Not as easy as it looks

48 How do Contractors Select Systems? Wall or Floor Construction Type, Rating Wall or Floor Thickness Penetrating Item, Coverings Size, Type, Thickness Annular Space Sizes Joint / Gap Sizes Backing Materials Fill Material(s) = Rated Firestop System STI Graphic

49 I- Installation Who s Responsible, How to Choose??? Graphic STI

50 Why Contractor Qualifications? Firestopping Ratings - F, T, H, L W Zero Tolerances? Annular Space Sizes, Gap Sizes Product Properties Movement Compatibility Storage, Application, Curing Temps SYSTEMS DOCUMENTATION

51 Installation Who? Firestopping wrong, missing Systems Documentation? As Built Documentation?? Conclusion Without Single Firestopping Trade. fire & life safety risks Adler Photo

52 3 Firestop Installation Methods Each Trade He/She who pokes hole, fills hole Multiple Contracts Firestop Contractors, Trades Single Source Firestop Contractor FM 4991, UL Qualified Firestop Contractors SPECIFIED in MasterSpec, under

53 Firestop Contractor Qualifications 1. Products at Hardware Store, etc. No Education 2. Manufacturer Trained / Accredited 1 hour program ½ day program 2 day education 3. Department of Civil Defence 4. FM 4991 Approved, UL Qualified Companies 3 rd Party Verified Company Management System Individuals Pass 3 rd Party Exam Individual Knowledge FCIA MOP All Manufacturers Products Company gets Approved or Qualified, not Individual Found in Spec Section

54 Firestop Contractor Qualifications FM & UL/ULC 4 Components 1. Office Facility Quality Management System Audit 2. Field Jobsite Audit 3. Employ a person UL/FM Firestop 80% or better DRI if employed by Approved/Qualified Firm, Designated Responsible Individual (DRI) 4. Annual Audit

55 1. Office Audit of Company Management System Manual Controlled Management Processes Project Successful Proven Contractor Education, Training, Accountability

56 1. FM, UL/ULC Company Audit of Management System (MS) Employee Training & Education Systems Selection Communicate systems to Field Material Controls Systems installation protocol Labeling Record keeping - Variance Procedures Non-Conformances Documentation Project closeout

57 2. Company MS Jobsite Audit by ULC, FM or UL Verification of firestop systems Processes Verify Management System Works Verify Company communication Office to field, field to office Culture of Quality» Adler Photo

58 3. DRI Company Appoints DRI if. Pass Rigorous Firestop Examination FCIA Firestop Manual of Practice Firestop Systems Selection & Protocol Management System Knowledge Keep CEU s 6 FM, 10 UL, ea. 3 yrs. Retested every 3 years (FM Only) One DRI per Approved Contractor Location

59 4. Annual Audit FM 4991 UL / ULC Contractor Company Personnel Continued satisfactory performance Quality Manual Implementation Documented - Archived record keeping Employee Training Documentation Jobsite Visit DRI CEU Verification

60 UL-ULC/FM 4991Contractor Company Benefits Quantified Differentiation Focus on the Company & Individual Investment in Company Procedures Investment in People Education Investment in FCIA Manual of Practice Project Successful Proven Contractor Education, Training, Accountability = Reduced Risk Life, Property, Business

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62 FCIA Educational Symposium in Abu Dhabi Inspection Mr. Bill McHugh, FCIA Mr. Sajid Raza, Butler ME

63 Firestop Installation & Inspection ASTM E 2174/ ASTM E 2393 Inspection Process

64 Firestop Installation & Inspection ASTM E 2174/ASTM E

65 I Inspection Options Contractor Self Inspection Verify Management System validity Not 2%, 10% Required for FM & UL, ULC Contractors Manufacturer Inspection Does not exist Survey, maybe ASTM E 2174 & ASTM E 2393 Independent 3 rd Party Destructive, Non Destructive Specified Frequency

66 I Inspection ADIBC ASTM E 2174 & ASTM E Through-penetration firestop systems, concealed draftstop and fireblock sys tems. All through-penetration firestopping, draftstopping and fireblocking shall be sub ject to periodic special inspection prior to concealment to determine compliance with the approved con struction documents. Listed systems shall be inspected for compliance with their listing. Exception: Through-penetration firestop systems may be inspected in accordance with ASTM E when authorized by the registered design professional of record and when the contractor applies the procedures established in that standard.

67 Firestop Systems Inspection ASTM E ASTM E 2393 Standard Practice for On-Site Inspection of Installed Fire Stops Penetrations - Joints Standard Inspection Procedure Special Inspection Agency Companies Other Qualified Firms Report to Building Owner, Fire Marshals & Code Officials

68 Inspection in Codes ASTM E ASTM E 2393 NFPA 101 / Chapter 8 - Annex 2012 International Building Code CH 17 Special Inspections Buildings 75 & higher above Fire Department Access Occupancy Type III, IV, Chapter 16 Table Abu Dhabi International Building Code

69 Inspection Firm & Indvidual Qualifications ASTM E ASTM E 2393 Inspector Firm & Inspectors Independent of, and Divested from Installing firm, Distributor, Manufacturer, Competitor, Supplier Not a Competitor of the Installer, contractor, manufacturer, or supplier. Submit notarized statements of

70 Inspection Firm & Individual Qualifications ASTM E ASTM E 2393 Inspector Personnel meet at least one criteria.. 2 years experience (Construction, Field), education, and credentials acceptable to AHJ Accredited by AHJ Meet ASTM E699 NEW Inspector Personnel / Firm Qualification IAS AC 291 NFPA 101/5000?

71 Firm and Individual Qualifications IAS AC 291 Inspector Firm shall have at least one staff.. PASS UL or FM Firestop Exam 1 year Quality Assurance Or PASS UL/FM Firestop Exam, and PE, FPE, Registered Architect, or PASS UL/FM Firestop Exam, and Education by Certified Agency Specify IAS, not part of ASTM Standards

72 Firm and Individual Qualifications IAS AC 291 IAS AC 291 Inspection Agency Accreditation - MasterSpec - SpecLink FCIA Presentations Code Cycle Specify IAS, not part of ASTM Standards

73 Inspection Process ASTM E ASTM E 2393 Pre Construction Meeting Review Documents Identify Conflicts Review Materials SYSTEMS ASTM E 814 or UL ASTM E 1966, UL 2079, ASTM E 2307 Systems Inspection Documents Manufacturer Product Data Sheets Tested and Listed Systems & EJ s

74 Inspection Process ASTM E ASTM E 2393 Pre-Construction Meeting Mock Ups Destructive Testing Installation Measurements Discuss Inspection Method Meeting Required During/Post Inspection Methods

75 Inspection Methods ASTM E ASTM E 2393 During Construction Random witness, Each Floor 10%, each type of Penetration Firestop, no less than one per floor 5% of Total Lineal Feet of Fire Resistance Rated Joint System, each type Adler Photo

76 Inspection Methods ASTM E ASTM E 2393 Post Construction - Destructive Testing Minimum 2%, no less than 1, each type per 10,000 SF of floor area Minimum 1 / 500 LF of Joint Area, mandatory If 10% variance per firestop type Inspection stops Installer inspects, repairs Inspector reinspects Adler Photo

77 Inspection Methods ASTM E ASTM E 2393 Both Methods If 10% variance per firestop type Inspection stops Installer inspects, repairs Inspector reinspects Inspector Shall not Supervise Workers Firestop Installation Start

78 Inspection Forms ASTM E ASTM E 2393 One for each type of firestop Submit 1 day after Inspection to Authorizing Agency Numbered Controlled Required During/Post Construction Methods

79 Inspection Final Report ASTM E ASTM E 2393 Name, address, location project, installer, inspector Type and quantity of firestops inspected Verification method Percentage Deviation Copies of all documents sent to Authorizing Agency

80 Firestopping & Compartmentation for Safety

81 FCIA Educational Symposium Maintenance Mr. Bill McHugh, FCIA Mr. Amir Toma, Hilti in Abu Dhabi

82 Maintenance Code Required How?? Firestop Maintenance How to keep Track Barrier Management Initiatives Paper Software Labeling

83 National Fire Protection Association - NFPA SECTION Maintenance, Inspection, and Testing Whenever or wherever any device, equipment, system, condition, arrangement, level of protection, fire-resistive construction, or any other feature is required for compliance with the provisions of this Code, such device, equipment, system, condition, arrangement, level of protection, fire-resistive construction, or other feature shall thereafter be continuously maintained in accordance with applicable NFPA requirements or requirements developed as part of a performance-based design, or as directed by the AHJ. [101: ]

84 National Fire Protection Association - NFPA No existing life safety feature shall be removed or reduced where such feature is a requirement for new construction. [101: ] * Existing life safety features obvious to the public, if not required by the Code, shall be either maintained or removed. [101: ] Any device, equipment, system, condition, arrangement, level of protection, fire-resistive construction, or any other feature requiring periodic testing, inspection, or operation to ensure its maintenance shall be tested, inspected, or operated as specified elsewhere in this Code or as directed by the AHJ. [101: ] Maintenance, inspection, and testing shall be performed under the supervision of a responsible person who shall ensure that testing, inspection, and maintenance are made at specified intervals in accordance with applicable NFPA standards or as directed by the AHJ. [101: ]

85 International Fire Code Maintenance SECTION 703 FIRE-RESISTANCE-RATED CONSTRUCTION Maintenance. The required fire resistance rating of fire-resistance rated construction (including walls, fire stops, shaft enclosures, partitions, smoke barriers, floors, fire resistive coatings and sprayed fire resistant materials applied to structural members and fire resistive joint systems) shall be maintained. Such elements shall be visually inspected by the owner annually and properly repaired, restored or replaced when damaged, altered, breached or penetrated. Openings made therein for the passage of pipes, electrical conduit, wires, ducts, air transfer openings, and holes made for any reason shall be protected with approved methods capable of resisting the passage of smoke and fire.

86 UAE Fire and Life Safety Code of Practice Maintenance & Management Chapter 1, SECTION 21 Firestopping The required fire resistance rating of installed firestop systems shall be visually inspected by the owner or owner s inspection agency annually. Damaged, altered or breached firestop systems shall be properly repaired, restored or replaced to comply with applicable codes as per the guidelines of Civil defense Any new Openings made therein for the passage of through penetrants, shall be protected with approved firestop system to comply with applicable codes as per the guidelines of Civil defense.

87 National Fire Code of Canada National Fire Code of Canada Division B Part 2, Building and Occupant Fire Safety Damage to Fire Separations where fire separations are damaged so as to affect their integrity, they shall be repaired so that the integrity of the fire separation is maintained City of Calgary Best Practices (1997) FCIA Manual of Practice Appendix, Maintenance FCIA recommends Barrier Management for Effective Compartmentation and Structural Protection Best Practice Guide - NRC Includes Fire Dampers, Fire Doors and Continuity

88 FCIA Educational Symposium in Abu Dhabi UAE Fire and Life Safety Code of Practice Mr. Mike Thrapp, Department of Civil Defence

89 FCIA Educational Symposium in Abu Dhabi The Yas Viceroy Hotel 18 May 2014

90 FCIA Thanks Sponsors 3M Gulf Ltd. Butler Engineering, ME HILTI, Inc. Intherpro LLC Koffel Associates RECTORSEAL Rise & Shine Insulation & Contracting Specified Technologies, Inc. Thermofire Middle East

91 FCIA Educational Symposium in Abu Dhabi Great Speakers Fatma Amer, Ali Bukair, Abu Dhabi DMA Bill Koffel, Koffel Associates Ahmed Eldidi, UL, LLC Mark Tyrol, Vidur Berry, FM Approvals Nick Brunet, 3M Gulf, Ltd. Randy Clark, RECTORSEAL Sajid Raza, Butler ME Fouad Hajj, STI Amir Toma, HILTI Mike Thrapp, Abu Dhabi DCD Bill McHugh, FCIA

92 President & Executive Director s Welcome Association Report FCIA Educational Symposium in Abu Dhabi 18 May 2014

93 2011 FCIA PRESIDENT

94 Barrier Management Begins when new construction ends

95 M Barrier Management Systems NEW Buildings Specifications Set Stage SYSTEMS Expectations As Built SYSTEMS Testing Installation Inspection AS BUILT DOCUMENTATION IN SPECIFICATIONS

96 Fire/Smoke Barrier Applications Fire Barriers Building Separations Smoke Barriers High Hazard Areas Elevator Hoistways Vertical Shafts Mechanical Shafts Refuse Chutes Stairways

97 Fire Resistive Wall Construction Fire Doors Fire Dampers Firestop Systems: Joint Systems Hot and Cold Water Piping Laboratory Waste Medigas Piping Pneumatic Tubing Sprinkler Piping Rigid Electrical Conduits Cable Trays BX Cables Low Voltage Cables and More. Low Voltage!!!! WHAT NEEDS TO BE MAINTAINED?

98 M Barrier Management Systems Barrier Management TJC # 1 & 2 Violations Constant issues Control? Staff? Attitude?

99 M Barrier Management Systems Barrier Management Policy - Tool ASHE Member Healthcare Engineer & Director Communicates In House Construction & I-T Crews Outside Contractors

100 Barrier Management Policy = Tool ASHE Member Healthcare Engineer & Director Communicates Rules of Engagement in Contracts Internal Contracts External Contracts Pre Construction Meetings Barrier Warnings - Markings Violation Consequences Ongoing Management Staff Education & Incentives

101 Barrier Management Policy Tool Rules of Engagement in Contracts Internal Contracts - In House Departments similar to Outside Contractors External Contracts AIA Contract Marked Fire - Smoke Barrier Actions Barrier Permits Documentation Report

102 M Barrier Management Systems Methods to Control Paper, Pictures & Files Electronic Pictures & Files Custom Packages

103 M Barrier Management Systems Common Elements Life Safety Drawings Existing Conditions Documented Ongoing Survey Records Deficiency Reports Systems Documentation Control, Retrieval

104 M Barrier Management Systems Document & Control Fire Resistance Rated & Smoke Resistant Barrier Walls, Floors Firestop Systems - Penetrations & Joints Fire Doors Rolling & Swinging Fire Rated Glazing Fire/Smoke, Combination Dampers

105 M Barrier Management Systems Electronic Best Practice Elements Action Oriented Projects - Specifications Ongoing Surveys FCIA RPPS Action Reminders In Process Status Record Retrieval

106 11 Sample Permit Area Gleeson Powers Graphic

107 11 Sample Project Gleeson Powers Graphic

108 Barrier Management Policy Tool Pre Construction Meetings - Education Barrier Markings Mean Actions when at Barriers Required... Permit required Above Ceiling, Barrier Hole Infection Control Rules Healthcare facility Rules

109 Barrier Management Policy Tool Barrier Warnings on ASSEMBLIES International Building Code

110 Barrier Management Policy Tool Violation Consequences In House 2 strikes & work reassignment to cleaning Others Outside Contractors 2 strikes & not allowed to work above ceilings Others

111 Incentives Barrier Management Find Violators. Staff Awards Policy Tool

112 Barrier Management Policy Tool Ongoing Management Engineering Staff Reviews User Staff Reviews Inside Construction Outside Contractor

113 Barrier Management Policy Tool Education - Healthcare Staff Simple?? Fire Doors & Hardware Simple things Close & Latch Holes in Door Ladder =?? Permit Sticker? Fire Rated Walls - Holes Accidental Workers

114 TOTAL FIRE PROTECTION Effective Compartmentation Fire Barriers, Fire Walls/Floors, Smoke Barriers Firestopping, Fire Dampers, Swinging and Rolling Fire Doors, Fire Rated Glazing Detection & Alarm Systems Sprinkler Suppression Systems Education & Egress Building Owners & Managers, Building Occupants and Firefighters

115 FCIA Thanks Sponsors 3M Gulf Ltd. Butler Engineering, ME HILTI, Inc. Intherpro LLC Koffel Associates RECTORSEAL Rise & Shine Insulation & Contracting Specified Technologies, Inc. Thermofire Middle East

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117 FCIA Educational Symposium in Abu Dhabi Great Speakers Fatma Amer, Ali Bukair, Abu Dhabi DMA Bill Koffel, Koffel Associates Ahmed Eldidi, UL, LLC Mark Tyrol, Vidur Berry, FM Approvals Nick Brunet, 3M Gulf, Ltd. Randy Clark, RECTORSEAL Sajid Raza, Butler ME Fouad Hajj, STI Mike Thrapp, Abu Dhabi DCD Bill McHugh, FCIA

118 FCIA Educational Symposium in Abu Dhabi The Yas Viceroy Hotel 18 May 2014

119 2011 FCIA PRESIDENT

120 FCIA Firestop Industry Conference & Trade Show Naples Beach Resort & Golf Club Nov. 2-8, 2014 Naples, FL Nov. 4-7, 2014