PAG Meeting Pacific Energy Center December 11, 2006

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1 PAG Meeting Pacific Energy Center December 11, 2006 MEETING NOTES Participants: Cece Barros, PG&E Shagun Boughen, PG&E Misti Bruceri, PG&E Lauren Casentini, RSG Sam Cohen, Energy Solutions Cheryl Cox, ORA Kathleen Gaffney, KEMA Nora Gatchalian, Energy Division Barbara George, WEM Donald Gilligan, NAESCO Greydon Hicks, PG&E Mary Jung, PG&E Duane Larson, PG&E Doug Mahone, HMG Steve McCarty, PG&E Cynthia Mitchell, TURN Keith Reed, PG&E Norm Stone, PG&E Eric Wanless, NRDC Eric Wovchik, Comverge Mona Yew, PG&E Proceeding: Introductions Steve McCarty o Question (Cynthia Mitchell) What was the notification process for this meeting? When did the invitation first go to the broader list of non-pag members? Answer: On PG&E sent a message announcing the meeting date to PAG members and those individuals who typically participate in the PG&E PAG. On PG&E sent a follow up message including the meeting materials. The second message was sent to PAG members and the list of individuals who typically participate in the PAG in addition to the overall PG&E service list. After sending the second message, PG&E learned that the first message was not sent to the overall PG&E service list. Following the PAG meeting, PG&E identified how the error occurred and will ensure all future PAG related messages are sent to the overall service list in addition to the PAG distribution list. o Agenda overview - 1 -

2 Portfolio Overview Duane Larson o Accomplishments Includes results from LGP and 3P; GW and GWH are ahead of goal; therms lag (Mass Markets are not contributing as expected; Targeted Markets making major push) Question (NRDC) Problems with start-up? Answer: If we want more contribution from Mass Markets, need to look at specific programs to address gas savings. Target markets are ahead, but started the year with nothing in the pipeline. Question (HMG) Has the shareholder mechanism been finalized yet? Answer: Proceeding ended, but no decision; expected by end of first quarter 2007 (DRA) Question (TURN) What are the sources of residential therm savings? Answer: Mostly from Low Income programs o Committed (Not a CPUC goal) MW, kwh, and therms lag forecasted need (expected because started the year with nothing in the pipeline); Question (HMG) Does this include savings from C&S? Anwer: Yes Question (Energy Solutions) Is such a large portion of the savings for the portfolio from CFLs sustainable? Answer: A recent SMUD study revealed only 17% of sockets have CFLs in them. In other words, 83% potential remains. o New Products spreadsheet handouts LCD Monitors Question (DRA) Who gets the incentives? Who are the participants? Answer: Mid-stream retailers. DRA doubts that this is an effective strategy. Targeted Market Report-Out Greydon Hicks o MW, MWH Paid Ahead of forecast Question (CPUC) What are deemed savings? Answer: Stipulated savings Question (Cohen) Where are the savings in Ag coming from? Answer: Refrigerated warehouses and wineries. Savings in fabrication market are coming from oil producers (mainly in San Ardo), and savings in hi-tech market are coming from server farms. Question (RSG) Is there an opportunity in the future for 3Ps to bundle DR and solar in upcoming solicitations? Answer: Yes Question (HMG) For long-term projects, given you can t commit beyond 2008, should you stop marketing for projects with greater than 2 year lead-time? Answer: PG&E will begin discussion next year on this issue with CPUC. What will the forum be for these discussions? Answer: Unknown; will discuss with ALJ. Interested parties to meet with Duane and Steve following meeting

3 Comment (TURN) End use break out from energy savings are 72% lighting (slide 15) Committed Because we can only claim actual paid savings, our committed/paid ratio is lower than past programs. Question (Comverge) How can we effectively include IDSM (specifically DR) initiatives with EE so that the combined benefits are properly accounted for? Answer: PG&E suggests another PAGette to address value of DR Mass Markets Report-Out Keith Reed o Paid MW and MWH are ahead of forecast and will exceed 2006 goals. o Paid therms lag and will not reach goal (perhaps 2.5 MM by the end of year versus 4.53 MM therms goal) No upstream contribution to therm goal o What s new? LED refrigeration case demo report; regional vendor meetings; trade professionals meetings; direct mail campaigns; water agencies, steam traps; advertising (appliances/summer); cool roofs o Upstream and Mid-stream programs contributing a great deal to portfolio; increasing interest from manufacturers and distributors o Challenges Therm savings; vendor participation; downstream participation slow statewide (slow down in economy?); commercial pool system expansion (recent success with 26 large pools in last 6 weeks); double dipping monitoring (processes to monitor are being examined); Small Business Energy Edge (SBEE) Question (TURN) -- Are you examining the process why only 14 of 1000 participants in the SBEE audit actually finance the project(s) identified? Answer: Yes; processes are being reviewed; will have a report on program at next meeting. On-bill? Not at this time. Edison success? TURN Too early to tell. o Design Changes Evaporative coolers Move to another channel E-rebate to allow vendors to submit electronically Bundled Building performance Incentive HVAC installation/design lighting, windows, insulation Midstream HVAC Distributors Delivery -- Terminated Local Government Partnerships Report-Out Mary Jung o Started slow but are expected to meet 2006 goals. o DI programs out of money; want additional funds. o Possible partnership with Santa Barbara o Muni retrofit projects Merced and Madera taking longer than expected. o Continued collaboration with the other IOUs on statewide partnerships o Overall, programs are behind schedule. o DRA Need an update by partnership on how each partnership is doing. Will send by the last week in January. DRA wants an interim report in the next two weeks. o League of Cities Need copy of the presentation - 3 -

4 Third Party Programs Report-Out Mona Yew/Misti Bruceri o All 32 RFP I programs underway o 21 programs accepting applications and/or conducting direct implementation o Question (DRA) -- How do accomplishments compare to year-end goals? Answer: Will send the goals with accomplishments Question (Comverge) -- Are there any programs with DR components? Answer: No o Review of RFP II executed programs Question (NAESCO) -- RHA program: how much is the total incentive? Answer: The incentive can be either an exchange only, or for some customers, includes installation. The donation is considered a marketing cost and is made whether the lamp is merely exchanged, or if the lamp is exchanged and installed. Question (DRA) Big Box targets? Answer: WalMart first; other big box to follow. Question (RSG) Coordination? Exhibit Gs prescribe the specific customer franchises to avoid overlap with other 3Ps. Ongoing coordination will be required on border issues. Discussion of New Solar Home Program Cece Barros/Shagun Bougen o Market slowdown Less than half of previous years (have only received applications for 11 homes since August compared to having to close the program in March last year due to oversubscription) o Solar adds $15k to $30k to a new home cost Question (PG&E) What % of the cost of solar is covered by the CEC incentive? Answer: 25% Question (HMG) What s included in the savings per home? Answer: It does not include savings from the ES appliances; only building shell. Question (CEC) What s the comfort level with the solar vendors? Answer: Don t want them to be limited by ES so that more vendors will become involved. Discussion of Water-Embedded Energy Pilot Bill Miller o Filing Jan 15, 2007 ~ $10 million o Program to begin 7/1/2007 o Incorporation in next program cycle o Many unanswered questions to be addressed o Question (ED) What s the budget for PG&E? Answer: $4.4 million of $10 million for all the IOUs of new RR (rate increase) TURN CFL Program Design Review PAG/Cynthia Mitchell o Wants to increase market penetration of CFL at a cheaper costs so monies can be shifted to other areas (water efficiency projects) - 4 -

5 o Wants to work on this beginning in early 2007 o Have the three electric IOUs address the questions in TURN s memo. Mixed reaction PAG versus IOU action; other PAG members don t believe this to be a high priority item. Data requests can be time consuming PG&E will discuss with other IOUs and coordinate activities and strategic alignment Planning 2007 PAG Meetings Duane Larson o Topics for PAG business Portfolio performance Long-term energy savings Water Embedded energy planning Question (WEM) When are meetings planned and the public notified? What s the notice requirement so the public can participate? Answer: Please see answer addressing this issue under introduction section in beginning of meeting notes. HMG Process Evaluation Plan update from CPUC Energy Solution Savings and Potential Where are the savings coming from? What segments are under-performing where emphasis is needed? Integrating DR and Solar NAESCO reallocation of funds based on market response Equity issues make sure small business is represented Energy Solutions Brainstorming session for program ideas o Schedule Issues driven and not just an update on portfolio performance o Other issues Implementer requirements to deliver programs Impact on the market of the new model Innovation Close - 5 -